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		<title>By: Phil Fox Rose</title>
		<link>http://www.bustedhalo.com/features/what-works-2-meditation/#comment-2510</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Fox Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 03:14:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Catholic&quot;, thanks for your feedback about meditation. I have no problem with Christians practicing yoga or sitting zazen, but my article pointed out strongly that you could meditate within the Christian tradition, without turning to Eastern practices. Even so, I&#039;ll address your concern, because I think this is quite important. 

The document you point to -- only a working group provisional report dubbed a &quot;meditation&quot; -- is about &quot;New Age.&quot; New Age is an entirely different issue. It is rooted in a view from astrology that we&#039;re entering the Age of Aquarius in which human evolution will take our species to the next level of development. It figures prominently in some aspects of the self-help movement because of its focus on individual growth, and it tends also to be associated with things Anglo-Catholic mysticism expert Evelyn Underhill would have categorized as &quot;magic&quot; -- crystals, channeling, tarot, etc. Though even the Vatican report says there are things of value in it, none of this has ANYTHING to do with meditation.

To group Hinduism, yogic philosophy and Buddhism into New Age is wrong. These are major world religions practiced by billions of people, each of which predates Christianity. Far more appropriate would be to cite the papal declaration Nostra Aetate, which points admiringly to Buddhism in particular and says it and &lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;other religions found everywhere try to counter the restlessness of the human heart, each in its own manner, by proposing &#039;ways,&#039; comprising teachings, rules of life, and sacred rites. The Catholic Church rejects nothing that is true and holy in these religions. She regards with sincere reverence those ways of conduct and of life, those precepts and teachings which, though differing in many aspects from the ones she holds and sets forth, nonetheless often reflect a ray of that Truth which enlightens all men.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If I am in a room that has some images of Hindu gods or a Buddha statue, where a few of the people present practice that religion, this does not threaten my Catholic faith or identity. If there is a talk and it veers into territory that is in any way incompatible with my beliefs, in my experience it is almost always possible to find much that is good in the teaching anyway. And this can happen in a Christian church too! If someone finds, week after week, a focus on spiritual teaching that is unwelcome by them, then they can go somewhere else where it&#039;s not, or where the focus is kept to meditation or yoga postures. 

One final note. Many people less open than I on this issue still consider it acceptable to identify as both Catholic and zen. Practitioners of Zen Buddhism tend to be quite adamant about its role as a set of ethics and a way of understanding right actions in the world separate from any belief system.

But I don&#039;t want to get bogged down here in arguing whether it&#039;s a religion or not. The form of Buddhism I have practiced is Theravada. Even if zen and Theravada Buddhism were full-blown theistic religions, I see absolutely nothing wrong with learning from them. The truth of the matter is that in the West, the mystical tradition was largely ignored or even discredited for many centuries. So those faiths that kept it going have much to teach us. 

Thanks again for the respectfulness of your note. I hope you find my further thoughts welcome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Catholic&#8221;, thanks for your feedback about meditation. I have no problem with Christians practicing yoga or sitting zazen, but my article pointed out strongly that you could meditate within the Christian tradition, without turning to Eastern practices. Even so, I&#8217;ll address your concern, because I think this is quite important. </p>
<p>The document you point to &#8212; only a working group provisional report dubbed a &#8220;meditation&#8221; &#8212; is about &#8220;New Age.&#8221; New Age is an entirely different issue. It is rooted in a view from astrology that we&#8217;re entering the Age of Aquarius in which human evolution will take our species to the next level of development. It figures prominently in some aspects of the self-help movement because of its focus on individual growth, and it tends also to be associated with things Anglo-Catholic mysticism expert Evelyn Underhill would have categorized as &#8220;magic&#8221; &#8212; crystals, channeling, tarot, etc. Though even the Vatican report says there are things of value in it, none of this has ANYTHING to do with meditation.</p>
<p>To group Hinduism, yogic philosophy and Buddhism into New Age is wrong. These are major world religions practiced by billions of people, each of which predates Christianity. Far more appropriate would be to cite the papal declaration Nostra Aetate, which points admiringly to Buddhism in particular and says it and<br />
<blockquote>&#8220;other religions found everywhere try to counter the restlessness of the human heart, each in its own manner, by proposing &#8216;ways,&#8217; comprising teachings, rules of life, and sacred rites. The Catholic Church rejects nothing that is true and holy in these religions. She regards with sincere reverence those ways of conduct and of life, those precepts and teachings which, though differing in many aspects from the ones she holds and sets forth, nonetheless often reflect a ray of that Truth which enlightens all men.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>If I am in a room that has some images of Hindu gods or a Buddha statue, where a few of the people present practice that religion, this does not threaten my Catholic faith or identity. If there is a talk and it veers into territory that is in any way incompatible with my beliefs, in my experience it is almost always possible to find much that is good in the teaching anyway. And this can happen in a Christian church too! If someone finds, week after week, a focus on spiritual teaching that is unwelcome by them, then they can go somewhere else where it&#8217;s not, or where the focus is kept to meditation or yoga postures. </p>
<p>One final note. Many people less open than I on this issue still consider it acceptable to identify as both Catholic and zen. Practitioners of Zen Buddhism tend to be quite adamant about its role as a set of ethics and a way of understanding right actions in the world separate from any belief system.</p>
<p>But I don&#8217;t want to get bogged down here in arguing whether it&#8217;s a religion or not. The form of Buddhism I have practiced is Theravada. Even if zen and Theravada Buddhism were full-blown theistic religions, I see absolutely nothing wrong with learning from them. The truth of the matter is that in the West, the mystical tradition was largely ignored or even discredited for many centuries. So those faiths that kept it going have much to teach us. </p>
<p>Thanks again for the respectfulness of your note. I hope you find my further thoughts welcome.</p>
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		<title>By: Stay</title>
		<link>http://www.bustedhalo.com/features/what-works-2-meditation/#comment-2440</link>
		<dc:creator>Stay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 03:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil, 
I thank you for your suggestions.  I will give them a try.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil,<br />
I thank you for your suggestions.  I will give them a try.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Fox Rose</title>
		<link>http://www.bustedhalo.com/features/what-works-2-meditation/#comment-2404</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Fox Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 18:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ricky, I confined my column to the issue of meditation, but it&#039;s interesting you bring up &quot;meditating&quot; on Bible passages. Centering Prayer is often paired with Lectio Divina, or divine reading. While the form varies, it is essentially reading a brief Bible passage with an open heart, then reflecting contemplatively on it. This practice dates back to the Sixth Century monasteries. I limited my focus for this column to sitting meditation but will certainly be devoting a column to contemplative reading of Scripture in the future. Thanks for pointing it out!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ricky, I confined my column to the issue of meditation, but it&#8217;s interesting you bring up &#8220;meditating&#8221; on Bible passages. Centering Prayer is often paired with Lectio Divina, or divine reading. While the form varies, it is essentially reading a brief Bible passage with an open heart, then reflecting contemplatively on it. This practice dates back to the Sixth Century monasteries. I limited my focus for this column to sitting meditation but will certainly be devoting a column to contemplative reading of Scripture in the future. Thanks for pointing it out!</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Fox Rose</title>
		<link>http://www.bustedhalo.com/features/what-works-2-meditation/#comment-2320</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Fox Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 18:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stacy, thanks for your question. It is totally OK that you sometimes fall asleep while meditating. If you are that relaxed, on one level you are in a better place than most people! If you fell asleep all the time, that would be a potential concern, but if it&#039;s just occasional, I wouldn&#039;t worry. 

That said, here are a few thoughts. One is, Is this because you, like most Americans, are in a permanent state of being sleep-deprived? Many of us are moving most of the time, but then when we stop, our need for sleep catches up with us. Also, if you are meditating in the morning before you are fully awake, you might experiment with doing it at other times. And finally, two things I suggested in the column: sit in an alert, stable posture, not reclining in any way; and if you meditate with your eyes closed, try doing it with them open. Both these things can lessen the tendency to get into a dreamy state of mind. While meditating you want to be fully alert, despite not focusing on anything. Hope that helps!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stacy, thanks for your question. It is totally OK that you sometimes fall asleep while meditating. If you are that relaxed, on one level you are in a better place than most people! If you fell asleep all the time, that would be a potential concern, but if it&#8217;s just occasional, I wouldn&#8217;t worry. </p>
<p>That said, here are a few thoughts. One is, Is this because you, like most Americans, are in a permanent state of being sleep-deprived? Many of us are moving most of the time, but then when we stop, our need for sleep catches up with us. Also, if you are meditating in the morning before you are fully awake, you might experiment with doing it at other times. And finally, two things I suggested in the column: sit in an alert, stable posture, not reclining in any way; and if you meditate with your eyes closed, try doing it with them open. Both these things can lessen the tendency to get into a dreamy state of mind. While meditating you want to be fully alert, despite not focusing on anything. Hope that helps!</p>
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		<title>By: Catholic</title>
		<link>http://www.bustedhalo.com/features/what-works-2-meditation/#comment-2304</link>
		<dc:creator>Catholic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 17:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the interesting article. There are many things I agree with, and there are some elements that are potential cause of concern. Particularly when it comes to &quot;co-opting&quot; other faith&#039;s practices and implementing them into Catholic practice. One does not need to look far inside a yoga studio for example to see images of Hindu gods and goddesses rampant - or instruction about chakras , the kundalini, etc. And any zendo will be just as so as it pertains to Buddhism. To simply ignore it is not only naive, but it&#039;s an invitation to many unforeseen dangers. Yoga cannot be simplistically viewed as a purely physical exercise. Catholics I know that practice yoga have said multiple times that they put on their &quot;armor&quot; when they practice b/c the Hindu element is beyond obvious.

For further reading about Christianity and New Age http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/interelg/documents/rc_pc_interelg_doc_20030203_new-age_en.html#4%20NEW%20AGE%20AND%20CHRISTIAN%20FAITH%20IN%20CONTRAST</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the interesting article. There are many things I agree with, and there are some elements that are potential cause of concern. Particularly when it comes to &#8220;co-opting&#8221; other faith&#8217;s practices and implementing them into Catholic practice. One does not need to look far inside a yoga studio for example to see images of Hindu gods and goddesses rampant &#8211; or instruction about chakras , the kundalini, etc. And any zendo will be just as so as it pertains to Buddhism. To simply ignore it is not only naive, but it&#8217;s an invitation to many unforeseen dangers. Yoga cannot be simplistically viewed as a purely physical exercise. Catholics I know that practice yoga have said multiple times that they put on their &#8220;armor&#8221; when they practice b/c the Hindu element is beyond obvious.</p>
<p>For further reading about Christianity and New Age <a href="http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/interelg/documents/rc_pc_interelg_doc_20030203_new-age_en.html#4%20NEW%20AGE%20AND%20CHRISTIAN%20FAITH%20IN%20CONTRAST" rel="nofollow">http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/interelg/documents/rc_pc_interelg_doc_20030203_new-age_en.html#4%20NEW%20AGE%20AND%20CHRISTIAN%20FAITH%20IN%20CONTRAST</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kristine</title>
		<link>http://www.bustedhalo.com/features/what-works-2-meditation/#comment-2294</link>
		<dc:creator>Kristine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 03:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article.  While I don&#039;t really know HOW to meditate per se (I&#039;d love to see an accessible how-to article on this), a year and a half of daily quiet reflection under the guidance of a spiritual director changed my life.  I left my career in New York City and moved to Italy to write!  I&#039;m happier now than I&#039;ve ever been, and for anyone enduring daily life and job turmoil, reflection and silence are the best ways I know to start hearing what God is trying to tell you about your life and what you are to do next.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article.  While I don&#8217;t really know HOW to meditate per se (I&#8217;d love to see an accessible how-to article on this), a year and a half of daily quiet reflection under the guidance of a spiritual director changed my life.  I left my career in New York City and moved to Italy to write!  I&#8217;m happier now than I&#8217;ve ever been, and for anyone enduring daily life and job turmoil, reflection and silence are the best ways I know to start hearing what God is trying to tell you about your life and what you are to do next.</p>
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		<title>By: Stacy</title>
		<link>http://www.bustedhalo.com/features/what-works-2-meditation/#comment-2292</link>
		<dc:creator>Stacy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 02:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have tried mediation before however sometimes I fall asleep.  Is this normal?  Should I tried to prevent it? If so, do you have any suggestions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have tried mediation before however sometimes I fall asleep.  Is this normal?  Should I tried to prevent it? If so, do you have any suggestions?</p>
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		<title>By: Marion</title>
		<link>http://www.bustedhalo.com/features/what-works-2-meditation/#comment-2278</link>
		<dc:creator>Marion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 02:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bravo! Thank you for this article. Meditation &amp; yoga are centerpieces to my practice as a young adult - and they exemplify how my spiritual practice has matured as I&#039;ve grown older. At this point in my life, I need something more contemplative than what I needed as a child &amp; adolescent.

I&#039;d also recommend reading Fr. Tom Ryan&#039;s Prayer of Heart &amp; Body for more information about Christian meditation. He writes about the use of meditation and yoga in a Christian context to experience God&#039;s presence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravo! Thank you for this article. Meditation &amp; yoga are centerpieces to my practice as a young adult &#8211; and they exemplify how my spiritual practice has matured as I&#8217;ve grown older. At this point in my life, I need something more contemplative than what I needed as a child &amp; adolescent.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d also recommend reading Fr. Tom Ryan&#8217;s Prayer of Heart &amp; Body for more information about Christian meditation. He writes about the use of meditation and yoga in a Christian context to experience God&#8217;s presence.</p>
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		<title>By: Ricky Spears</title>
		<link>http://www.bustedhalo.com/features/what-works-2-meditation/#comment-2275</link>
		<dc:creator>Ricky Spears</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 23:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the article, Phil! I couldn&#039;t agree with you more when you say, &quot;I’ve noticed over and over: People struggling with anxiety over things they’re powerless to affect rarely have a daily prayer and meditation practice.&quot; Because every Christian&#039;s relationship with Christ is unique just as their relationships with other people are unique, I can&#039;t say that every Christian must meditate and/or pray daily. However, our strongest interpersonal relationships are those where we have frequent two-way conversation and mediation and prayer is how Christians are to have conversation with God.

For myself, rather than meditating on a single word all the time, I meditate on different passages from the Bible. I&#039;ll read them and spend time focusing on different words and phrases, asking myself questions about them, and actively conversing with God as He converses with me over His word.

I&#039;ve documented a number of these sessions and typically publish new ones each week as Christian guided meditations. If you get a chance to check them out, I&#039;d love to hear what you think. You&#039;l find them at: http://www.mindfulworship.com/category/free-guided-meditations/ They aren&#039;t for everyone, but it&#039;s my way of inviting people to join in what I naturally do myself.

Worship Mindfully!
Ricky Spears
http://www.MindfulWorship.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the article, Phil! I couldn&#8217;t agree with you more when you say, &#8220;I’ve noticed over and over: People struggling with anxiety over things they’re powerless to affect rarely have a daily prayer and meditation practice.&#8221; Because every Christian&#8217;s relationship with Christ is unique just as their relationships with other people are unique, I can&#8217;t say that every Christian must meditate and/or pray daily. However, our strongest interpersonal relationships are those where we have frequent two-way conversation and mediation and prayer is how Christians are to have conversation with God.</p>
<p>For myself, rather than meditating on a single word all the time, I meditate on different passages from the Bible. I&#8217;ll read them and spend time focusing on different words and phrases, asking myself questions about them, and actively conversing with God as He converses with me over His word.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve documented a number of these sessions and typically publish new ones each week as Christian guided meditations. If you get a chance to check them out, I&#8217;d love to hear what you think. You&#8217;l find them at: <a href="http://www.mindfulworship.com/category/free-guided-meditations/" rel="nofollow">http://www.mindfulworship.com/category/free-guided-meditations/</a> They aren&#8217;t for everyone, but it&#8217;s my way of inviting people to join in what I naturally do myself.</p>
<p>Worship Mindfully!<br />
Ricky Spears<br />
<a href="http://www.MindfulWorship.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.MindfulWorship.com</a></p>
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